The second recommendation that we got apparently does not even do these procedures. He passed us on to another doctor in his practice, who in turn passed us on to a fellow {
someone who has completed residency training (e.g. in internal medicine, pediatrics, general surgery, etc.) and is currently in a 1 to 3 year subspecialty training program (e.g. cardiology, pediatric nephrology, transplant surgery, etc.)} in the practice. I'm not even interested in moving on this... pretty soon we'll be seeing the janitor.
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